The Truth About The Rohingya Lie With Burma Expert Rick Heizman by Kevin J Johnston (Full Transcript)

 

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The Truth About The Rohingya Lie With Burma Expert Rick Heizman by Kevin J Johnston

Kevin J. Johnston here, KJJradio.com. We want to thank everybody for joining us at the 1 p.m. Eastern Standard Time slot for today's interview with Rick Heisman, who's currently on the air with us right now and on Facebook Live.

If you're on kjjradio.com, you'd like to see the two of us. It's Kevin J. Johnston 300 on Facebook. For those on Facebook who'd like higher fidelity sound, go to kjjradio.com. Rick Heisman is an expert on Myanmar, formerly known as Burma. He's been to the country 28 times and is a San Francisco-based freelance journalist and Burma expert.

We have to talk to Rick today about two major subjects and that would be the Rohingya lie and the crazy Dr. Zarni. Rick, thank you so much for accepting our call and thank you so much for talking with me today. How are you? Hey, good and thank you for having me. It's great to be here.

It's wonderful to have you. Now, we want to cover two subjects, as I mentioned. The Rohingya lie. We have a whole populace here in Canada who's being led to believe that the Burmese government and Burmese Buddhists, for no reason whatsoever, decided to begin killing Muslims en masse. I have to get your take on this. Please, go ahead. Yes.

Okay, so the same kind of lie is happening in the US and much of the Western press. For one thing, I was just there for six weeks in most of September and October,

In Rakhine State also was granted special permission to visit ground zero, that is, Maungdaw and Buthidaung, where the atrocities did happen, and that is the atrocities committed by the so-called Rohingya to the Buddhists and Hindus and other minorities of the area. So let me start with this. For one thing, I noticed very quickly as I got back here that the press

In the Western press, that is, in almost any story about this situation involving the Rohingya, the so-called Rohingya, will not even talk about what started this violence. And in Asia, for one, the press is much different, that the Indian press, the Chinese, the Thai, the Sri Lankan

And so on, are generally very strongly supportive of Burma or Myanmar in this respect. So let me say this to your listeners. What started this? What started this whole cycle of violence? Well, here's what started it. On August 25, in the pre-dawn darkness, the Muslim rebels, now called ARSA, A-R-S-A, launched a coordinated

Okay, so there were 30 police posts targeted and about 30 to 40 to 50 villages attacked that same morning by a total of four to six thousand assailants. Okay, they attacked

And they overran many of the police stations because they had so many people, like 500 assailants attacking a police post with five Burmese police in there firing away and then having to run. Villages that were invaded that pre-dawn morning, many villages had their entire population rounded up in the darkness

Huddled together and then executed in mass by the rebels. Okay, who are these rebels? They are the Bengali Muslims, so-called Rohingya,

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For the rest of this show, I will call them Bengali Muslims because that is the proper name. Gotcha. Now, I have to be clear on this one. All the research that I've done and all the Burmese community I've spoken to, they made it very clear that the term Rohingya is simply made up. It doesn't exist. There was never a Rohingya people.

Correct, very correct. And yet the press has gone wild with this term, Rohingya. I mean, it's gotten to dimensions that it wasn't even meant to be, even by them. So almost any Muslim in Burma can be called a Rohingya now, and the Rohingya definition is so far wide, it's ridiculous. Now, the term did not exist. The British were meticulous record keepers of everything.

And the British never ever came across that. They did define Muslims at the time by many other names and categories, like where they came from. Okay, but never Rohingya. And Dutch, Chinese, Portuguese, anybody over there did not ever encounter the word. And the word was basically made up in the 60s. It's a play on old meanings of the word, so it's like the word Palestinian.

It's not a real ethnicity, or it doesn't have a history in and of itself, but it's all a made-up history now. And in fact, in 1947, the Muslims of that area of Burma, even though quite a minority, issued an ultimatum to the brand-new government of Burma, which was just granted independence from Britain,

And that ultimatum demanded that they declare that state, or that part of the state at least, a Muslim-only autonomous region. This is 1947. And interestingly, they did not ever use the word Rohingya because it had not been invented then. They called themselves the Bengali Muslims, or particularly the Arakan Muslims.

That was what they call themselves. Later they decided to, for some reason, invent the name Rohingya, which did not catch on for many decades. And even still I have interviews of Bengali Muslims in more remote parts of Rakhine State that if I ask the question, are you Rohingya, they say, what is Rohingya?

Oh my God. Okay. So I'm going to recap what you just said there just in case our audience is not catching. The fact that this term Rohingya has been even cooked up in the first place, it describes no people that ever existed. People there in Burma, Muslims there do not know what the term Rohingya means. So it's being utilized as some kind of marketing term

That the left-wing media, especially in Canada here, are continuing to utilize to lie to the public about these Rohingya Muslims being exterminated. Is that really all this is? It's a marketing term? Like Palestine? It is. It is. It very much is. Because the Rohingya, okay, let's call them by what they should be called. The Bengali Muslims are basically Bangladeshis. Now, very interesting, just recently when

Aung San Suu Kyi visited the Rakhine State to talk to both the Buddhist population there and the Rohingya or Bengali Muslim population. Well, she needed a translator to talk to the Bengali Muslims because they don't speak any local language that is in Myanmar.

Now, when the leader of Bangladesh, Sheikh Hassani, the woman leader of Bangladesh, when she visited the refugees, she did not need a translator because they speak the same language, the same dialect of the same language. They had the same religion.

Thank you. Thank you. And it's interesting that the Toronto Star, especially, this is our worst one here in the province of Ontario.

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They're the ones who have photographs of Muslims on boats falling off the boat into the shallows of a beach, saying that they're all being forced out. And by name, the Toronto Star is saying that Buddhists are murdering Muslims en masse. And the story goes here. Now, it's impossible to know if these numbers are correct or not, but the Toronto Star is indicating that 400,000

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That's the narrative here. Is Islam great and Buddhism bad? And I can't imagine what the benefit is to the Toronto Star. I mean, they've already had to lay off 110 people this year. There's more layoffs coming. Do they not realize that left-wing news isn't popular with intelligent thinking Canadians? Right. Well, here's an even better explanation for why the hundreds of thousands are in Bangladesh now.

An estimated perhaps 600,000. Okay. But they, most of them, and now let me preface this with the fact that we have interviews with many of them that were on the border who were asked about, were you forced out by police or military? Did the army burn your village, et cetera? They said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That didn't happen. But then why are you here?

Well, because of the fear of the rebels themselves, their own people who took up arms are demanding that they come out as part of the political moves of this area. And so many of these Bengali Muslims are coming out for one, because of fear of retaliation from the rebels, because the rebels had come into every village and demanded that every village supply them with troops.

Now almost every village did do that because the rebels have massive support in the village. But when the rebels failed in their jihad, then the rebels demanded that all the other Bengalis follow them out. And it's part of the grand play because they know that the international world will

We'll take care of them and blah, blah, blah. Also, another thing is the message was wildly circulating among the Bengalis that go out now. Now is the time to get to Bangladesh because the U.N. will take care of you and the U.N. will actually get you to Europe, Australia or U.S. or Canada very quickly. And yes, I even made a documentary film about this.

And it was about, several years ago, it was about the boat people. You know, just like you were saying, the images of people falling off boats and so on and so on. And most of those are not even so-called Rohingya. But there's scams going on, and I show it in the videotapes. I show leaders...

Basically, Bengali leaders that are already in Europe instructing other Muslims how to pretend to be a Rohingya in order to get quick asylum, because UNHCR will give Rohingya special quick asylum to Western countries. And so this video shows the progression of this. It shows the leaders saying, so if you want to come to the Western world, go to Dhaka, the capital of Bangladesh,

Take our course, and they have a course to take in which you learn Chittagong dialect, the Bengali language, which the Rohingya speak. And then you are trained what to do. You're told to bring your worst clothes with you because when you get on the boat, you have to look pitiful. So no new clothes, no clean clothes. And then you have to throw away all of your ID,

And then when your boat lands or is captured somewhere, you cry and scream and you say you were driven out of your Burmese village and you didn't even have time to get documents and anything. That's the kind of scam that's going on. And there is a heavy load of Rohingya immigrants in the US and I presume Canada also, much heavier

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Well, let me tell you my first real experience with this and how I figured this whole thing out as being just a complete lie. We went downtown Toronto. There's a place called Queen's Park where the provincial legislature takes place in the province of Ontario. And most protests in Ontario are done at this building that's about 100 years old, actually older than 100 years old now.

The Burmese audience that was there answered all of my questions. We ran interviews like you wouldn't believe and they explained everything. Myanmar is under attack by Muslims. Muslims moved eastward to try to make a pathway all the way to the Pacific Ocean through Vietnam and the Philippines. And I understand the Philippines has a ton of trouble with this now.

So we interviewed all of them. Now, then as journalists, I'm trying to be responsible. I walk over to where the Muslim community is and all they're doing is talking about the fact that Buddhists are killing them and that they have the right to fight back and protect themselves. It's calling for violence in downtown Toronto by the Islamic community against the Burmese community.

And if people go to kevinjjohnston.com right now, you'll scroll your way down. You'll see a video where I show how Muslims are treating people. One guy says, we're going to take revenge on all of you. We're going to kill you all. F-U, F-U, F-U, middle fingers. And I'm asking him, could you please give me your side of the story? F-U, F-U, F-U, with the finger. Well, the Islamic community, all Muslims went over and they would pat each other on the back saying, don't talk to Kevin. Don't talk to Kevin J. Johnston. Don't talk to Freedom Report.

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Well, that's very, very true about that. And, uh,

Okay, so listen, I'm going to preface with just a short snippet about my history in Burma. Please. Okay, to validate it. I have been there 28 times. Last time was just a month ago, and I was there for six weeks. I was there for six weeks last year. My trips are generally quite long, so I have spent years of my life actually in Burma. Rakhine State, where this is happening, is...

This is an obscure part of the country, and yet I have been there starting in 1996, so 21 years of going to that part of the country also. When I was in Burma, I was working deeply and covertly with the democracy movement, and I was a major asset. I was reporting to U.S. congresspeople here and traveling there using a fake name.

Getting in and out, in and out all the time. I was in rebel areas, I was beating all of the top opposition, doing pretty hardcore covert work to bring down the military dictatorship. And we did, finally. And so I was very active for a long time in bringing down the army, the Burmese army, which was in control. So I'm no fan of the army, but I do not believe any of these allegations against the army because I know what was happening. I was there on the ground.

The army is not burning villages and shooting people. Now, after the big attack in August 25th, the army had to respond and the army of any country has the right to respond to a major terrorist act. And I do have to say that that terrorist act of August 25th ranks as Asia's largest terrorist attack in history. In fact, perhaps the world's largest terrorist attack because

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What other terrorist attack anywhere has ever had 30 or more targets at the same time? None. And what other terrorist attack has had four to 6,000 assailants in the initial attacks? None. And it happened in the middle of the night, so there's no dramatic photos like a 911 or so. It was not at a spectacular location. It was just scattered. It would be like if your town

And your county or so had 30 police stations attacked in the same night, plus another 50 or so villages where people were massacred, hundreds of people were massacred. And then that went on for days and weeks. Okay, so that's one thing. Now, what I hear from Rakhine people, and the Rakhine people are the indigenous Buddhist people of the area there, what I hear from them in

Especially in Rakhine State, the way that the Bengali Muslims treat them is hideous. The Bengali Muslims, even when they're not killing, they're always flaunting their religion in this supremacist way, such as always putting down Buddhism and Hinduism as those are people who are idol worshippers. Okay, and you know, the Quran says idol worshippers are the worst.

and should be killed, eliminated, period. And to this day, do you realize that

Almost no Muslim country on earth even recognizes Buddhism or Hinduism as valid religions. They don't. Right. The way the Quran is written is that people of the book, they mean Jews and Christians, are to be given the choice to convert to Islam or pay the jizya tax, which means an amount of money or an amount of property or even your daughter and wife as collateral.

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But, you know, the big thing here is the police officers that I do speak to, and believe me, I do not hold the police in contempt in any way for this. I get that their orders came from Kathleen Wynne, who is the premier of the province, the equivalent of a governor of an American state. I understand that they're under her orders to shut me up, which obviously hasn't worked.

Nonetheless, when I explain what you've just explained to me to them and I show on my cell phone, look, this is a police station in Burma and they behead five police officers right on the spot to the point where the head is not connected to

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Let's talk about the history of Islam.

of Islam versus Buddhism because Buddhism was already had existed for about 1200 years by the time Mohammed was born. And Buddhism had spread all the way into parts of Persia. And parts of Persia were even ruled by Buddhist kings in those days. Persian history probably doesn't say so, but it's true. There's a lot of evidence of that. There's good books and research. Okay, so Buddhism was all the way to the frontiers of

of early Islam. And Islam, from its inception, has always destroyed every single Buddhist country or culture it has intersected with. So starting from Persia through what is now Afghanistan, Pakistan, all the way across India, and then up to Bangladesh area. You know, those are modern terms, but the Bangladesh area, up into Central Asia and China, Western China, that is,

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Buddhism has destroyed completely every Buddhist culture, because Buddhism is a very pacifist religion, and it is very great in many ways, but it does not know how to deal with a threat like Islam. Now that frontier is Arakan, or Rakhine State, that frontier of Islam versus the Buddhist world.

And if the Muslims took over Rakhine State, next on target would be Burma and then Thailand and Vietnam, Cambodia and Sri Lanka and so on. So there is a great battle here and we do have to stop it. And I tell you that the Buddhist people and the Buddhist army are not killing Muslims. Now, people will run around shouting jihad, sorry, run around shouting jihad

Genocide, there's a genocide on the Muslims there. Well, the Muslims there actually have the largest population growth anywhere in the world, the Bangladeshis, that is. Their population, the average girl gets married at 15 years old and has a baby a year. And so there are families with 20-plus kids in them, and they're taking over by sheer population growth.

And they're not interested in birth control, as we know, because they say that children are a gift from Allah. Now, Bangladesh, all around it, from Rakhine State on one side to the north to the east, is making trouble everywhere. It is killing, slaughtering, and invading the lands north of Bangladesh called Assam in India.

India has built the longest fence in the world between Bangladesh and India, about a thousand miles long because of all the Bangladeshi troublemakers coming into India. And for India to get pissed off enough to build a fence there, that says something. It also built the second longest fence along its border with Pakistan. Now, back to the Rohingya, the Bengali Muslims, as they are properly known, they are so aggressive

They're much different than other Muslims in Burma. There are other Muslims, the Pante Muslims, the Kaman Muslims, and they're generally no problem and they have citizenship and so on. But the Bengalis demanding citizenship and these Western idiots saying, well, we just have to give them citizenship. Let them all back in and give them citizenship. What country on earth gives people citizenship that is people that want to destroy the country

Because the Rohingya do not want to be part of Burma. They do not want to be ruled by infidel Buddhists. They want a separate Islamic state, Islamic only as they keep on saying. In other words, they want no minorities in it, no diversity, no multiculturalism, no progress, no nothing except themselves. And therefore, I am happy to see them on the Bangladesh side of the border because

They are now actually in their cultural homeland. When they're in Burma, they're strangers. They don't want to learn the language even if they say they've been there for hundreds of years. Well, if they have, doesn't anyone want to join the language there and integrate? No. They're in their cultural homeland where everything is the same because that's where they actually came from.

It goes on and on. But these, you know, every day in the Western press there's articles about the Burmese army. It makes them sound like they're just total thugs running around firing everywhere. And I put out videos of the Burmese army in action with showing a lot of restraint.

Not shooting back, having rocks thrown at them, having jingalis. In Burmese, a jingali is a sharpened bicycle spoke shot with slingshots. Oh my God. Yeah, and those can kill and have killed. And they're being shot with things like that as they're trying to come in and find the assailants, the Muslim terrorists that committed these jihad acts in August. So for one thing,

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Don't you think that if the Muslim extremists attack 30 police posts, they know that there's going to be a serious reaction to that, don't they? I mean, they have to know that, because they did that a year ago in Burma also. And so they knew there was going to be a retaliation. And if you kill 30 or 50 or something police men, don't you think the police are going to come after you? Of course you do.

Now, in the initial fighting, when the army had to come into villages and find and kill the terrorists, you have to assume everybody is on their side, because they are actually. I have interviews of Bengali women in the refugee camps asked about ARSA, and they are glowingly proud of ARSA, and they admit that they support them, they feed them, and they're so proud that their sons are part of ARSA.

So in other words, the women also are terrorists in that respect. The kids, I have videos of ARSA-made videos we got from captured cell phones, like five, six, seven-year-old kids with big knives saying that,

We want to cut the heads off Buddhists, Allah Akbar, we want to cut the heads off Buddhists. You did, you sent me those videos, they are extremely disturbing and I'm going to present those in future videos, but I have to be very selective how I show them because we know that YouTube will take them down.

YouTube takes down videos of mine where I just talk about the LGBTQ community and took a video down about a black woman who was telling white people in an audience that all white people are racist. I made a comment on that video or about that video and they took that video down and it's how YouTube and the liberal media here

And that's why you and I are talking here because at least even if Facebook does take this video down for its, I guess, controversial content, it'll still be on bitshoot.com who does not censor anything other than calls to violence. And we need a lot more conservative websites like it. But I want to remind everybody here on kjjradio.com and facebook.com and gab.ai,

If you have a question, throw it into Facebook or into the browser of kjjradio.com. If it's a short and to the point question, we will read it out live and we will get you an answer. I'm seeing a lot of comments coming in but I simply can't read out that many comments. So, terse, brief, right to the point questions and we will get to them.

Is there a solution for Myanmar with, okay, I gotta hear this. The solution is this. The solution is that the Bengalis need to live only with themselves because every other ethnicity that they live with, they kill, they slaughter, and they do that based on their Islamic faith. And their Wahhabism directs them that they can kill anybody

Who is not them? Who is not Muslim? Okay, so the Bengalis have to live with Bengalis. And then the Buddhists and Hindus and Mro people and Dainet and all these other tribal people can all live in harmony as they do in Rakhine State. But all of them are totally afraid of living anywhere near Bengalis.

So the solution is separation in this case. Right. Okay. And we have a question here. Kevin, could you please tell us the name of your guest? It's Rick Heisman, who is an expert on Myanmar, formerly known as Burma, who's been to the country 28 times and is a San Francisco-based freelance journalist and Burma expert.

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expert and no one knows more about the subject matter than Rick Heizman does and i'm so thrilled rick to be talking to you today um now you're talking about uh the bengalis forcing them to be with each other one of i've actually spoken at length about this and obviously because i'm in canada i have to watch what i say but i have theorized that if you do cave in

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When you have experienced Muslim countries, as I have, I've been in Yemen, I've been in Kurdistan, Turkey, I've been in Chinese Muslim areas, Indian Muslims, et cetera, Indonesia, Malaysia. You understand the frightfulness of it, and you understand the brainwashing that goes on from the day one when you're born into a Muslim family. I'm sorry to say, but it is that way.

Yeah, it's extreme brainwashing. I watch the videos, like I said, and to watch a five-year-old spew any kind of hate, aside from, I hate Brussels sprouts, talking about human beings with sheer anger in their faces, that type of anger, that's taught. That is beaten into their heads. Children that age are not angry. And when they're that brainwashed at that young an age, they're not going to change. In fact...

That's why I say they really have to be separate, because in 10 years, those six-year-olds will be 16 years old, and then they'll be stronger and more capable of killing in mass. Now, this killing has gone on and on in Burmese history for a long time. Okay, now, what started, what brought all these Bengali Muslims into that part of Burma? The British did, British. Okay, when the British, you know, the British had India,

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And so they brought in Bengali Muslims who were convenient next door. The Buddhists of the area didn't care much about working with the British because the Buddhists had their own life. And so the Bengali Muslims were brought in and they turned into a torrential horde of them. They initially were not supposed to stay there. They went back to Bangladesh area where they came from during non-harvest times. But nonetheless, the British started that

And then World War II happened, in which there was a very significant massacre, the biggest massacre in Burmese contemporary history. It's called the Maungdaw Massacre. 1942, the British, who were being beat out of Burma by the Japanese, 1942 the British armed a force called the Bengali V Force, which were almost all Bengali Muslims of the area, to help them fight the Japanese.

Now, why did it do that? Because the Buddhists were not so interested in fighting and were not good fighters anyway, but the Muslims loved to fight and they were good fighters. So they were armed by the British. Then the British retreated as the Japanese made an invasion of that area. The Bengalis, what did they do? They did not fight the Japanese. They turned the weapons immediately upon the Buddhist populations.

And in the Maungdaw massacre, they killed 30,000 Buddhists in one town alone in one day called Maungdaw. And then burnt more than 400 Buddhist villages of the area, sending about 100,000 Buddhists fleeing for their lives. That was 1942. Okay. Then 1947, they established the Mujahideen Army.

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They chose the word Mujahideen, which is the Arabic word for holy warrior, for Islam, for Allah. So 1947, they started a major guerrilla war against the Burmese army. And they actually occupied most of the area because new Burma was very weak.

And then it just continued on and on after that. There was incidents in the 1950s and 60s and 1977. Very interesting. You remember Colonel Qaddafi in Libya? Yes. Well, 1977, a group of Rohingya commanders went to Libya to talk to Colonel Qaddafi about funding them to take their area and make it independent.

And Colonel Qaddafi agreed with them and worked and trained and armed them along with Bangladesh. The next year, in 1978, they were supposed to then, the plan was that they were going to wreak havoc all across Burma by trying to assassinate every leader, every city leader, every state leader that they could in a day or two. Then there'd be such turmoil that they could grab that chunk of land that they wanted.

But that was uncovered, and then as it was uncovered and people were arrested and people were found with lists of names, then the Bengalis were driven back into Bangladesh at that time. It's called the Nagameen. Now, everybody over there, well, most people know that the Bengalis were pushed out of Burma at that time, 1978. But they don't even know the history about the Libyan

The Libyan plot, right before that, that created that, because that plot was pretty much secret for a long time. It wasn't public knowledge.

And it is now, because we know that from WikiLeaks things and so on. In 1985, there was a major Rohingya leader who called for the absolute elimination of the Buddhists in his speeches and cassettes. The elimination, he called for all-out genocide against the Buddhists. 1988, there was an invasion of Mongdok town

On the anniversary date of that massacre, so 50,000 Muslims poured into Maungdaw town attempting to annihilate all Buddhists in it, and the very outnumbered police force actually fought very well and defeated that attack. 1992, Saudi Arabian military general

Called for all Islamic countries to contribute troops to an army to invade and take over Arakhan State, Rakhine State in Burma. That was 1992. And the U.S. jumped in on that and said, you guys, you better not do any of that, because if you do, we're going to beat the shit out of you. So they shut down. Yes. And then 2012, you know, just three years ago, there was a major

Major violence occurred, and at that time I was in Burma, also 2012. I wrote a 200-page report about it with a lot of detail. And then last year, 2016, the terrorists bombed and invaded three police posts in the middle of the night by complete surprise, killing about a dozen or more police, beheading them and so on. And now it's 2017, an even bigger, much bigger jihad.

This is just going on and on and on, and all of it is the Muslims are killing the Buddhists, and yet the press here has it all backwards. Nowadays, everybody in the world just about has a cell phone with a camera on it. There's cheap cell phones that even poor village people have.

I noted in recent years, even in Rakhine State, almost every village, people are walking around with their phones. So of 600,000 refugees, the Bengali refugees, let's assume that half of them had phones, 300,000. Now, why is there not even one photo of a Burmese army atrocity happening? I mean, yes, you can't take a photo when someone's shooting you or so, but

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There are, you know, everybody has a phone. It could be turned on. The video could be shaking and shaking as they're running or something or so on. We do have a lot of cell phone videos of atrocities happening the other way. We have a lot, we have thousands of images of victims

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They're the ones who proudly film themselves committing these atrocities. They're the ones who film themselves lighting children on fire and laughing about it. They're the ones that film themselves raping women and babies and laughing about it. They're the ones who film themselves cutting off people's heads and laughing about it. They're the ones who create their own propaganda videos with their own cell phones.

Right. So, you see, yeah, it's them doing it. The terrorists are showing us what they are doing. So, you're right. There is nothing on the other side. There's no Muslim terrorist out there that can show you that any Burmese soldier is acting inappropriately, shooting at them for no reason.

But again, our press, our press here, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, which is as awful as the BBC is and awful as CNN is, are showing us the exact opposite. They are telling us that Muslims are the victims. And Canadians are so comfortable with the lives they live, they say, well, I guess, you know, if I hear it every day, you know, it must be true. It's almost like a cartoon monkey going, ooh, ooh, yeah, that's the sense I'm getting here.

It is. And no one's looking into it. You know, okay, so much focus is upon the refugees in Bangladesh, the Bangladeshi refugees who went there. Internally in Rakhine State, there were 60,000 Buddhist, Hindu, and other refugees

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I saw Asian reporters, because they knew, but no Western reporters, because they all just stream over to Bangladesh as if that's the only thing that happened. Speaking of some of the terrible press, how about the New York Times? You have writers like Richard Gettleman, complete fabrications. There'll be headlines, the troop took my baby out of my arms and threw him in a fire.

Okay, that's the title, which first is pretty hard to believe. But you read down further in the article where he describes in detail, he says, the women were in the river. The troop took the baby from the woman in the river and threw him in a fire. And then I said, I think, well, hmm, rivers usually don't have fires, right? There's usually not a fire in a river. How do you throw something from a river to a fire? In other words, it doesn't make sense. And

And there's no validation anywhere in a story like that, not a single piece of evidence or validation or anything. It's completely made up bullshit. And the Bengalis, I have to say,

I have to say that the Bengalis are the biggest liars in the world. I've seen it again and again and again and again. Yes, well, I have to remind everybody that one of the main tenants, in fact, on everything that I will be writing as essays and publications in the future,

I will always remind everybody that the term taqiyya is ingrained in Islamic culture because the book says so. Now, taqiyya, most people will tell you that taqiyya means that as a Muslim,

You can only lie about being a Muslim if someone's going to kill you for being a Muslim, to avoid death or persecution for being a Muslim. Well, I guess you're really not that connected to your faith

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if you're going to lie and say you're not a part of it just to survive or just to further it. But in reality, Takiyah is lie about everything just so long as you spread

Islam. That's it. It doesn't matter. Lie about being shot. Lie about being stabbed. Lie about the stresses that Kevin J. Johnston and Rick Heisman are putting you through because we're telling the truth about your book. Lie, lie, lie, and lie some more. The entire, it's not a religion, the entire doctrine is you must be dishonest to everybody who is not a Muslim.

And I take great issue with that because when it's ingrained in your head from age two, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, tell lies, lie about it all. You can't believe a damn thing that they say, period. It makes the entire grouping look bad. Please go ahead.

Yeah, and on that matter, you have incredible lives going through the Muslim world if you research the Muslim media, the media that goes through the whole greater Muslim world. Muslim youth everywhere are being taught, for instance, that Christopher Columbus, when he discovered America, so to speak, when he came here,

Yes, we do. Yes, we do. So I have an interesting comment here. Okay.

Virginia says, I sometimes wonder if the Islamic world hasn't got atomic bombs under western cities. Politicians that normalize Islam are insane. Why are the governments bringing Islam in is beyond all rationale. Now, Virginia, there's something that maybe you and I, Rick, will cover on very quickly here. And that is when the Soviet Union broke up into, what, 15 countries.

Kazakhstan immediately, just because of old Soviet reserves, became the third leading nuclear power in the world. Now, Kazakhstan was not exactly known for being a really big economic power. So, if Kazakhstan needed money, yeah, they could sell an old Soviet nuclear sub. They could sell a multi-warhead missile if they chose to do so. We have no idea.

We're in Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan. Nuclear weapons have gone. We don't. Could they be in American cities right now? Hell yeah, they could. Yeah, they could. And just as a divergent to that, about 10 years ago, I was very involved in in the revealing the information about Burma and North Korea ties at that time in the military dictatorship in North Korea.

I was building a new parallel nuclear program in the northern hills of Burma. Oh, no. Yes, we uncovered that and stopped that after defectors came out with treasure troves of photos, videos, samples of uranium, pictures of the equipment. All of it was from North Korea at that time. So anyway, that stopped. And that has actually nothing to do with the Rakhine issue, but that's just another thing that was happening.

You know, back to the Rakhine people and all of that. Please. You know, what did the army have to do in the first actions there after the August 25th? Well, first of all, they had to rescue a lot of villages. There were Buddhists and Hindu and other ethnic villages that were surrounded by Bengali villages that were terrified. They had their cell phones. They can call in to the police station and say, or the army and say,

We're surrounded, we're surrounded, we're going to die because there were like hundreds of black hooded rebels around them closing in on their village and the army in some cases just barely got there in time. They had to drive on roads that were mined by the Bengalis and there were trucks blown up and so on and they had to rescue villages

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Sometimes it could be 100 or 200 people and one truck got through, so the truck could not even drive them out. The troops had to just walk with the people on either side, ready to shoot in any direction, and escort the people on, say, a six-hour walk to safety. And the troops also had to carry, hand-carry things like old ladies and men who couldn't walk well. It had to treat people medically and so on. That's what the troops were doing. They weren't sitting there raping

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This is their biggest chance in life to get to the Western countries right now. So I'm going to remind everybody of the word takiyah, not tequila, but takiyah. Whenever you hear Islamic women claiming that they have been raped by white men or by Bengali soldiers or by Chinese soldiers or otherwise, just...

Accept it for what it is. It is takiyah. It's a deception. It is a lie to garner sympathy for Islam, which I will remind everybody is not a religion. It is a military expansionistic doctrine based solely on the destruction of everything that is not itself masquerading as a religion. But I did advertise that we had to talk about a nutcase coming here to Toronto.

Tomorrow and speaking in front of Toronto City Council on Thursday of this week. And that is Dr. Zarni, the fraudulent Dr. Zarni, who is also a Holocaust denier. Please, I'm going to let you run with this because I didn't hear about this clown until Wednesday of last week when we first made contact with you. Tell us what we need to know about Dr. Zarni. Please, I beg you. Educate us. Yeah, this is my day now. I love it.

Okay, and so I will tie this in very briefly with what we were just talking about, the lies of the rapes and so on. So Dr. Zarni would be one who would tout the line that all these Bengali women have been raped. So let's test their DNA in eight months, okay? Those who have babies should be tested and it will prove that those are not Burmese who have raped them, really, okay? And now Dr. Mong Zarni,

Oh, boy. He has to rank as one of the three most hated Burmese people by any other Burmese people in the world. He, the late, the former dictator Ne Win, and the former general Tan Shui, and then Mong Zarni, are the three most hated Burmese.

But the question is, why does Wang Zarni show up now and then? Well, Wang Zarni, for many, many years, is touted as the academic expert of Burma, the PhD, so on, the knowledgeable one. Well, first of all, his PhD is a sham, as we now know, because his titles have been stripped from him after years of allegations of

PhD abuse, I guess you can call it, claiming he got a PhD. Finally, PhD investigators determined that 90% of his thesis was plagiarized and they stripped him of titles. So we should not even call him Dr. Mongzarni, certainly not PhD, or we can call him fake PhD, Mongzarni,

Fake PhD, that would be good. Okay, but where did Mwangzarni start? Well, I knew him a long time ago when he was the active one in the Free Burma Coalition, one of the first big groups opposed to the military dictatorships. And he was the leader of that, and we took it for granted. And he was a good leader at a point, and he was very dedicated to the cause.

But he was very erratic and his behavior started to get to other people and his strange thinking and so on. And so he was kind of ostracized by most of the Burmese community again and again. And then every time he would be ostracized, he would come out really harshly against the Burmese. And

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so he would get more ostracized to the point now where he hates his own people so much that he is...

He would be so happy to see all Burmese destroyed, the country destroyed, Buddhism destroyed, and everything. I cannot believe this transformation of this person. I mean, it's really unbelievable how it happened, but it did. And I can point out many, many, many instances of his misgivings and his efforts to undermine his own people

And one of those efforts is what he's going to do Thursday night there, talk to the people of Toronto there. And he is so into Rohingya and he pushes this line for one about genocide, ethnic cleansing, genocide, ethnic cleansing. Well, any other talk of the Bengali people is that their population growth is out of control.

How can there be a genocide on a people whose population is actually increasing so rapidly? It's impossible. That is not a genocide. And if anything, the genocide can be applied to what the Bengalis want to do. What they want to do is eliminate all

Can I, it is genocide, you are correct, and I want you to understand what you're up against. I mean, if you're able to get into the country here and speak, I, oh God, I'll pick you up at the airport. But I need you to understand what we have here in Toronto. The mayor of Toronto, his name is John Tory. He was a former radio show host. He used to be somewhat conservative, and now he is as left-wing and gutless as they come.

Girl, I'm not going to call her a woman. There's a black girl here named Yusra Kogali, who's the head of Black Lives Matter Canada, and her brother, Waleed Kogali. She came under fire for saying, please, people, or please, Allah, give me the strength not to kill or cuss white people. Please, please, please. Nothing happened to her. No criminal charges. And what happens here is Mayor John Tory takes this girl,

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Her brother, Walid Kogali, has been stating that he wants white police officers dead. Now, back in April, sorry, of this year, I accidentally came across him. I went down to cover a protest and there he was. And I walked over to him saying, Walid Kogali, Kevin J. Johnston Freedom Report. And he looks at me with a fake Jamaican accent going, get away from me. This is criminal harassment. It's criminal harassment. Turns around and runs to a white police officer saying, this man is bothering me. And

You know, the white officer, he knows who I am and just says, okay, stay away from him and keep the peace, to which I agreed. I always cooperate with police in every way I can. That's who is going to be presented to is this left-wing, nutjob, pro-domestic terrorist mayor, John Tory. And of course, I have to be there to cover the story and I will be there to cover the story.

So, regrettably, this Dr. Czarny, who's going to come in here and say, kill Buddhists, kill Buddhists, kill Buddhists, John Tory's probably going to say, okay. Okay.

That's Canada. That's where we've gone as a country. I know. Go ahead. I am so looking forward to confronting Zarny sometime because I can debate him like hell. You know, his style is so, what's the word, harsh with anybody who criticizes him. First of all, he will immediately start calling them all kinds of names. Yes.

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He does. And so he puts out so much misinformation, such as there's a photo of, well, okay, you know who the monk Wiratu is? Yes. Yes. Now, Wiratu is a monk in Mandalay. He's not Rakhine. But nonetheless, Burmese monk that has a sharp tongue. He speaks sharply and harshly. Some people don't like his style.

And I will say that he does not lie, though. What he is telling is the truth about his people and the dangers of Islam. Now, his style, you know, the way someone speaks, they could be either rough or not. His style is kind of rough for many Burmese. And even those Burmese who say, well, I don't like his style, but he's right. He can't, you know, he has never, ever

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Now, people love to say, well, he is the face of Burma terrorism, as Time magazine did. What about the Bengali leaders that are openly just calling for the death and execution and the heads cut off of all Buddhists and Hindus and so on?

Again and again and again, is that not more inflammatory than we'd have to say living with the Muslims here is like living with a nest of snakes nearby or something? And you know what? The big problem with that is that type of speech is always here in Canada as well. And I know it's in your country, all over the place, every major center. Yeah.

And we never see them get arrested for hate speech. I mean, to hold a sign saying, behead those who insult Islam, behead those in Burma, behead the Buddhists, behead the atheists. None of these folks ever get arrested. In fact, their faces will make it to some mainstream media front pages, but nothing is ever done about it. And I mean, nothing, period. I know, I know. Okay, so we got to, there's a photo of him, of somebody offering something, kneeling on his knees.

I'm going to show you a picture of a person showing him actually a drone, a camera drone. So he's showing him a drone. But the photo was photoshopped so that it looks like the person is showing

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See, this proves that Wiratu is the killer monk, etc. He's dealing with guns and so on. When the gun was photoshopped into the photo. And I have both the real and the fake photos. It's very obvious. That's only one of many, many things. Very recently he pointed out he had proof of troops lighting villages on fire.

In Rakhine State of this recent violence. And yet the photo is of troops with buckets of water, throwing buckets of water on the fire to put it out. They were not lighting it. And in fact, the photo was not even from Rakhine State. It was from Mandalay area and so on. That's another false thing.

Sorry, I got a comment here. I'm going to address it right now before we go too much further into it because it's a valid one. Bobby says, not all Muslims should be painted with a single brush. For example, Raheel Raza speaks out against radicalization. Here is Raheel Raza's business card for those who don't know. I met her publicist just a little while ago. Anyway, to finish it off, Raza speaks out against the radicalization and presented to the M103 committee.

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Tarek Fatah speaks out, and dozens of others. Which sect is the religion of peace? There are several sects. T.O. have a meaningful discussion, and it's to define which sect or sects promote extremist ideology. Look, um...

I'm going to burst your bubble just a little bit here, Bobby, and that is this, that when push comes to shove, the Islamic community, through fear, like we've discussed earlier in this conversation, will do what they're told. So if the Islamic community is told to take up arms and kill the Christians, kill the infidels, they will.

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I know many Muslims whose kids in this country play hockey and play lacrosse and play soccer, who work at McDonald's and work at Tim Hortons and work at these various places. When a Muslim has their kid in hockey, they're Canadian first and they're everything else second. I get that and I appreciate that. And this country, much like your country, the USA, is the country where people are supposed to come for a better life and adopt our better way of life and leave the garbage they escaped from

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I would never tell anybody they can't come here for a better life, but I will say when you get here, you'll abide by our rules and our laws, and if you're not going to, I'm going to fight you. That's the way it works. I'm going to fight for my country and my way of life because it's better than what Pakistan has to offer. It's better than what Bangladesh has to offer. It's better than what downtown Jakarta has to offer. I don't think anybody can argue that point. Please, go ahead. That's true. And of course, it's always true that there are

Good Muslims and bad Muslims or so. But the problem really is Islam itself is a problem. And so I know many Muslims that are very good and fine. And those are actually Muslims who don't read the Quran and don't take it seriously and don't go to the mosque. So in other words, you know, they're born Muslims and they don't really give a crap about it.

Those are the Muslims we don't have to worry about but back in Burma, one thing that really struck me in all of the film interviews I did with people was the fact that

A woman who's been traumatized by the raids on her village and fellow Buddhists were killed and so on will say, I even saw the faces of some of those attackers and I knew them because they're from the neighboring village. It's not like they're friends all the time, but they interact, they buy and sell things. It was Ahmed and Hamid and so on, and how can they kill us like that? One day we're buying something from them and the next day they come to kill us.

Well, that shows the power of brainwashing of Islam in that everybody can be told, okay, on August 25th, pick up your arms, put on black clothes and your hoods and so on and go massacre. And they will, they will. And in fact, those who don't will be killed by the terrorists. And we do have plenty of evidence now from terrorists who survived this of people

The terrorists themselves telling other men in the village, if you don't go out and attack, we will kill you. And they did. And there's almost 100 documented cases of the terrorists killing their own. In fact, some of it very recently in the last few days that numbers of

Yes, and there's a comment here which resembles what you just said. Virginia says,

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It's peer pressure here in the Mississauga, Toronto area, yes. I mean, Muslims who don't go to mosque, they don't get to go to the cafes and the restaurants afterwards and intermix with everybody. But you, what you're talking about is the other side of the world, the exact opposite extreme. If you don't do what we say, we kill you. Become a terrorist or you die yourself, which always lends a lot of credence to my theory and the theory of any intelligent thinking person that the greatest victims of Islam are Muslims themselves.

That's very, very, very true. Very true. You know, the greatest victims are those who have to follow the Quran for whatever reasons, because the Quran is the worst thing. The Quran is the crux of the matter. If we got rid of the Quran, you know, there would be so much less of this kind of stuff happening.

Yeah, I'm still a proponent for banning the Quran as hate literature. You know, honestly speaking too, everyone asks me, Kevin, why do you continue to say that Islam is not a religion? And I'll tell them flat out. Number one is you have to really, the crux of your religion needs to be that you believe in a supreme being, something that can create life by snapping its fingers.

But in Islam, what I've noticed is it's more than 90% the worship of Muhammad, a man, a human being. And if you're going to be worshiping a man or a human being, what is that? It's a four-letter word. It's a C word, cult. That's the problem. It's a cult. Now, cults can always get away with having crazy rules because who's going to stop them? How do you stop a cult that's utilizing religious freedom in the law?

Yeah. Oh, exactly. Along with that is I've been advocating in Burma to high officials and so on that it's time to stop, curtail all madrasa schools, Islamic madrasa schools, because they're sprouting up everywhere there are Muslims around Asia.

In Burma, in Thailand and so on, madrasa schools, what do they learn in madrasa schools? For the most part, they learn sheer hate, those kids. They learn to hate all others. They learn from the time they're learning to speak at two years old or so, they're learning that they are special because they're Muslim and everyone else is worthless.

Hey, they're doing it here in Canada in the city of Edmonton on the public dime. They're putting Arabic classes now into public schools. What the hell for? The only reason I would say that would be a useful thing in Canada or the USA

is to form our own counterintelligence agencies where we have fluid Arabic speakers who are patriots and nationalists trying to protect us. But that's not the goal in the province of Alberta. The goal is to indoctrinate. Yes, you know there's parts of the world that have banned Arabic language like Kurdistan or so because Arabic language has always been associated with Arabic atrocities in those parts of the world.

And so there you go. So madrasa schools are really part of the problem, and mosques are too. Now, I'm not advocating, I'm not saying close mosques, but close madrasas.

Because they are a huge source of trouble. Go ahead. That the country of Burma, or Myanmar now, Burma before, or the ancient kingdoms that existed in Burma, all of them have always had religious freedoms.

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Even hundreds of years ago, the kingdoms were known to have freedom. If someone wanted to be a Muslim, a Hindu, whatever, extinct religions, that was okay. And under the military dictatorship even, all of that was okay. And in the present, it's all okay.

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Islam is peace, and you know that exactly, but you're trying to make Islam look bad, but you won't be able to look at the world and see how many people have converted already. So I'm going to address that, Ibrahim. Number one is the Quran. I've read it.

I'm writing a book on it right now.

is all about hatred and extermination. And as soon as a book says, kill somebody who disagrees with you, how is that peace? Please, Ibrahim, tell me in the comment section here how that is peace. Now, you're talking about expansionism of the religion. Let me explain that one to you. And I'm going to use Chechnya as the example. When the Soviet Union broke down and Chechnya became a separate nation, people were hungry and starving.

Guess who went eastwards with money? That's right, the Islamic community went eastward, convinced all the men to grow beards, convinced them that Allah was the way, but didn't convince them with faith and miracles, convinced them with wads and wads, suitcases full of money, saying, here's US dollars, convert to Islam, and now the entire country in less than two decades is Islamic because of money.

Ibrahim, it is all about money. The Saudi Arabians and the Pakistanis have tons of money. The Saudis, because why? We in the West buy their oil, that's why. Islam has the money to become the biggest expansionistic religion in the world. I'm sorry Ibrahim, but if you tell anybody about what...

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You go ahead, you try right now to debate me on this. I will crush every one of your arguments because all you have to do is follow the money and follow the influence and follow the power. And that is why. Now, I'm going to give you one more reason.

This is the more obvious one. It's not necessarily money here in Canada, but there are a lot of socially awkward males because of third wave feminism bashing men down into the ground. So you got guys who cannot talk to girls, who are desperate for a girlfriend. They want to know what it feels like to hug a girl or hug a woman because they don't know it. They see it on TV and they want to do it. What happens?

You join Islam and you are handed over a free Pakistani girlfriend. The Pakistani Muslim girl goes, hey, I got a white guy. The white guy goes, hey, I got a free girlfriend. That is why Islam is expanding worldwide. They're catering to love, lust, and money.

Abraham, you're absolutely wrong and you cannot beat that argument no matter what you say. Sorry, please. Rick, I didn't mean to get charged. You go ahead. I know. Abraham, can we talk to the 80 million estimated Hindus who refuse conversion?

I mean, come on. You say, how many people have been converted? At what price, though? People are being converted by the sword all over the place. And that's an issue in the Rakhine state also. Some people say, well, you know, the Burmese are so cruel, they have so many restrictions on the

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people about marriage, about, well, hey, you know why they have restrictions on the Bengalis for marriage? It's because the Bengalis, when they marry, they force the Burmese girl to marry

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And we have another guy also named Ibrahim right here in my hometown who is teaching young boys in the madrasas, like you mentioned, that it's okay to beat women with a stick. And he tells them what size stick to use and shows them how to do it.

Right here. And that same guy went to the Peel District School Board, which is a school board for three cities, Mississauga, Brampton, and Caledon, and said, hey, I'm an imam and we must have Islamic prayer in publicly funded schools on Fridays. And it must be in Arabic so you stupid white people can't understand that we are calling for the death of Jews in your schools. And the school board went for it.

Okay, yeah, no problem. Useful idiots. Totally, yes. Oh, and that Ibrahim guy, he left. He's not in the chat room anymore because I shot down his argument. Bye. Oh, boy. Yeah. You know, okay, so back to, you mentioned Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Please, go ahead. Let's talk about them for a bit. Yep. Because...

The Bengalis have a committee that supports and controls the terrorist actions. That committee is based in Saudi Arabia. There it is. Saudi Arabia is a host country to a lot of Rohingya, a couple hundred thousand Rohingya who, oh, interesting, by the way, they're not citizens of Saudi Arabia. Well, you know, and there's a couple hundred thousand so-called Rohingya in Pakistan who are

Oh, also not citizens. So all this talk about giving citizenship to the Bengalis and so on, what about these Muslim countries that have huge populations that will not give them citizenship as they don't give them to Palestinians and so on? Same argument.

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You know, there's no foreign involvement there. They're just local rebels that are rebelling against the conditions, blah, blah, blah, the severe conditions. Well, there are ties with the ISIS and Taliban and Al-Qaeda and so on. I know a lot of that. There's a lot of information. But here is something really special.

The day before the big attacks on August 25th, that is on August 24th, starting in the morning, there were three phone calls that Indian intelligence intercepted. Now, a couple weeks before that, in a raid on terrorists there, some terrorists were captured, and one of them had the phone number of Atta Ulla, who is the leader of ARSA.

And that number was given to Indian intelligence, because they had the better capacity to trace it in that area. And they did. And they tapped into his line, because he didn't know it was tapped into. And there were three critical calls the day before the big attacks. Two of them were from a Pakistan general, a Pakistani general to Attaullah, who in his messages first said,

You know, hello, blah, blah, blah. And then pretty much said, as translated, we need the attacks moved up a day or two. And Atul Ula said, oh, I'm not sure how we can do that because we're not using phones right now to communicate. We have to send out runners to each village. Okay, so he said, but okay, try as hard as you can. He called back that evening to check on the progress of that. The third

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Critical call was from an ISIS leader in Syria to Ullah, pre-congratulating him on the attacks. They knew the attacks were coming, and he gave the final pep talk, okay, you know, God be with you, et cetera, Allah Akbar, blah, blah, blah, and blah, blah, blah, blah, like that. And those three calls really said something. Now, the attacks were timed to come out exactly when the Kofi Annan-led attacks

Report and recommendations was released on August 24th. And when they found, I think they thought it was going to be released a few days later, and they were planning to have even more simultaneous attacks, but then they found out, okay, the 24th is going to be released. Can we get the attacks to happen at the same time? Exactly the same time. Okay. Well, the attacks happened starting 10 hours later. That was close enough.

It torpedoed that report. And by the way, I read the whole 62-page report and greatly criticized it. It's good that they shot it down because it favored, actually, the Muslims so much that it would have been hard

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There is an Islamic table saying, here's free donuts, free food for you starving students, and a free Quran. By the way, join Islam. Ding. So it's happening everywhere. And then he says, and this is where they always go, every Muslim that gets upset with me always says the same type of thing.

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Become a free thinker. Think for yourself. Don't let a stupid book that was written by a 40-plus-year-old maniac dictate the terms of your life to you. Muhammad was... I mean, any psychological magazine or paper I've read on this guy would say that he was desperately in need of antipsychotic medication. Who thinks this way? Who thinks it's a good idea to behead 80,000 people in a 24-hour period?

Yeah, yeah, exactly, that's right.

Yeah. And so let's see. We want to go back now to Dr. Zarny. We got to finalize here because he will be speaking to the idiots at Toronto City Council explaining what what does he want to tell white Canadian people to do? Oh, boy. He wants people just to just to simply hate the Burmese, hate the Burmese culture, hate the Burmese religion of Buddhism.

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You know, some idiot out there says, well, we need to hear the Burmese voice. They Google academic PhD Burmese or something. They come up with him. And he is not representative of Burmese people at all. At all. In fact,

Whether it's true or not, I don't know, but we quite suspect that he has converted to Islam. Fine, if he wants to, okay, that's his choice. But that just puts, he's not going to announce that, I'm sure, but that puts him in that mindset of people that can easily try to destroy Buddhism.

And I wrote a paper about half a year ago about the terrorist threat throughout Asia in the whole Muslim media. And the Muslim media is so much hyping this idea that Buddhism has to be

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destroyed completely everywhere on Earth, that Buddhism is the terrorism of the world. Buddhism is the... Iranian articles, even as you would...

No, Iranian articles even tie in Jews with Buddhism, saying, behind every Buddhist is a Jew, Iranian style, like that. And so in the Muslim media around the world, they're painting up this image of Buddhism as the most diabolical, intolerant, terroristic people on earth. What they're really doing is talking about themselves, but Muslims are very good at talking about themselves by putting it on other people.

Boy, Hillary Clinton did the same thing to Donald Trump, you know, and even in a fixed election, she's so terrible at what she does that she couldn't win a fixed election. And that's where Islam is going to fail, is that eventually guys like you and I are going to get the truth into people's heads. And I did get a little bit of good news from one of my fans and someone I hope to have on the show very soon from the Washington, D.C. area. He's a millennial

Former Pakistani Muslim and he's explaining to me that the younger Pakistani crowds who have access to Bollywood movies and access to Hollywood movies despise the elders in Pakistan and they're becoming more and more atheistic and more and more secular. Meaning that if we can just get that type of thing to become the mainstream and have the secularists of Pakistan quell and quash and squash

The Islamic leaders of Pakistan, all of a sudden, we can, in two short generations, bring Islam down 50 pegs and have it become a footnote in history as opposed to being the controller of all future history. Because it's 50-50 right now. Islam's either going to rule the world or disappear. And in Canada right now, it looks like it's going towards rule the world because our politicians are helping it every hour of every day expand.

Interesting along those lines is that Iranians that I know, and by the way, LA, Los Angeles has the largest population of Iranians outside of Iran.

And they're very good people. They're much more liberal Iranians, not into the religion at all. And these writers tell me again and again, they say, believe it or not, Iran is going to be the first country that bans Islam, because they say more than 50 percent of the people in Iran hate Islam so much, they're sick and tired of it. It's an Arab religion anyway. It's not their own. Their own has been crushed.

But they are powerless at the time to do anything, but when the theocracy does fall in Iran, that quite likely, they say, the people could just totally jettison Islam. It might have to take a civil war, because there are fanatics there, but there is such a large portion. Now, in Rakhine State, I know a Rakhine, sorry, a Bengali Muslim guy who converted to Christianity

And he is very interesting in that he says, everything you write about Rohingya is very, very true. He says, because I was that way. I was totally that way. And I finally woke up and converted to Christianity. He has had to leave there. He's in Australia or somewhere now because he has had to leave for his own safety. He was threatened with death so many times for doing that. And he said, there's a group of us

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You know, that's the problem when you try to leave a problem like Islam, is that they will come after you and harass and kill you and so on. Correct. That's also Quranic teaching, everybody, just

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so you know. Kill the apostate. If you leave Islam for any reason, you are an apostate and you must be killed. The penalty is death for leaving Islam, which is why he would have to leave wherever he was. Right.

Rick, we're coming up on the 90-minute mark here. We're going to have to cut it off in the next couple of minutes. So I'd love to get a closing statement from you. Maybe I could get you to direct your closing statement to the idiots at Toronto City Hall. Okay. Idiots at Toronto City Hall, please listen. Don't believe this Czarny guy. I mean, I think if you have any intelligence, you can see through him a bit to see how

How nasty and antagonistic and untruthful he is, just by the way he speaks and so on, and by the company he is with. If you really do believe Buddhists and Burmese are the killer killers, you should examine yourself. Why would you believe that?

Buddhist countries and Buddhist people have been peaceful everywhere. However, they do have a right to defend themselves, especially when somebody is attacking them, intending to kill them. And I put out a story like this.

You know, sometimes the Western Buddhists don't get it. Like the Western Buddhists will say, well, Buddhists don't kill. They shouldn't kill. They shouldn't hurt anybody ever. And I say, okay, so if you're in a village home at night and six Muslims burst into your village home,

With machetes and start hacking away at your daughter and your wife. What are you going to do, Mr. Buddhist man? Are you going to sit there and meditate? Are you going to sit there and say, oh, please don't cut her other arm off now? No, you're going to pick up whatever you can pick up and you have to try to kill them because they will kill your wife and daughter and son immediately. I mean, you just have to go after them and you don't like that. You didn't choose it.

You don't want to kill him, but you have to do that.

Right? Yes. The self-preservation argument. Everyone has the right to survive, to defend themselves, to exist. And when one human being decides in the year 2017 to kill you over the fictional character of Allah, you do have the right to defend yourself. And Buddhists and Myanmarians, or the Burmese, have the right to defend their homeland. Every country has the right to defend itself

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And they're the ones who are killing the Buddhists who in turn are now being painted as the villains by all Western media in this conflict. And I'm sad by it. And I'm so disgusted that Toronto City Hall and Toronto Mayor John Tory wants to bring this terrorist-loving scumbag before them to lie to them just like the Rohingyans lied to city council here in the city of Mississauga. I'm tired of the lies.

How do people find you? Okay, YouTube, my channel is Burma Friend. Pretty easy to find, Burma Friend. There's a lot of, there's over 100 videos there. Recently, I did 50 plus interviews there in the last couple months there.

And which speak a lot. You can also find me on Facebook, Rick Heisman. You'll see a picture of me with my cat, okay? There I am. That's a great shot. And that's Rick Heisman, R-I-C-K. Last name is H-E-I-Z-M-A-N. We say Z in Canada, not Z. Right, right. Fantastic.

Okay, so you've been listening. Rick, thank you so much for coming. It was a great show today. You've been listening to Rick Heisman, who's an expert on Myanmar and Burma, who has indeed been to the country 28 times and is based in San Francisco, a freelance journalist telling the truth about Burma, Islam, and the world that surrounds us all. Thank you again, Rick. And I am Kevin J. Johnston. You've been listening to us on kjjradio.com.